1. The conflict between Mark and Demetri now is intense...
2. ... but I don't trust that woman! We haven't seen her FF at all...
3. ... on that topic, they said we'd see at least one new FF per episode. Unless the tiny snippet of Mrs Noh's that was just a different angle of Zoe's counts.
4. If Demetri survives, he and Zoe will get married with their parents approval and live happily ever after.
5. I am beginning to worry for his survival.
6. But I think it's becoming less likely that he's the mole. Too much has been invested in this going-to-die plotline to destroy it now.
7. Maybe Mark is the mole. What if, right before the time depicted in his FF, he'd just sent an email to the baddies, telling them all the info that's supposedly being leaked "now", so they could see it in their FF and know it now, even though he hasn't revealed it yet?!
8. I am pretty sure the whole thing of the people knowing Simon's plans is related to an FF.
9. What is with Simon and Lloyd?! Lloyd getting kidnapped was so sad/well portrayed, especially with the tracking shot of Dylan getting further and further away.
10. Stan throwing that thing at the TV was a bit... I don't know. When Demetri hit Mark in episode 4, it was very intense, but I think now they are relying a little too much on physical force/violence to portray character's emotions.
11. Speaking of Demetri and Mark, is Demetri Mark's apprentice or something? It's cute how Mark pretends Demetri didn't know they were breaking the rules, to protect him.
12. HUGE SPOILER: The person who flipped the table was Mark. And he got fired for it! I was kind of wondering why he wasn't fired by April 29th, what with the conflict developing between him and Stan, plus if they found out he was drinking, surely he'd be fired...

Overall, I think the last few episodes have been consistently good. Around episodes 2-6, they seemed to fluctuate in how much I liked them, but I have liked the past few episodes.

I think that D. Gibbons is related to those guys at the end that took Lloyd away, when Lloyd gets away from them he explains to Dyllan and everyone what happened and Dyllan finds out that D. Gibbons is a bad man, being autistic he repeats lines often such as this is my home to and during the flashforward he said that to Charlie and that's why she said 'D. Gibbons is a bad man'.

I think D. Gibbons is somehow tied to this -- this is the closest connection we've seen between the kids and the "bad guys". I guess the kidnappers could be like the woman who tried to shoot Lloyd at the conference -- just ordinary people overcome with grief and anger at his involvement in the GBO -- but they seemed more calm and professional than that hysterical woman.


Someone proposed in a fanfiction that "No More Good Days" could be something Olivia says to Charlie about divorce -- that they divorced or separated because there were "no more good days", or that Lloyd might have said that to Dylan about his past wife, and Dylan may have repeated it to Charlie in the FF.

One thing I picked up on that thought was a bit weird but could be wrong is that Simon says he had the idea for the structures in Somalia in 92. How old is he supposed to be, if it's 2009, could he at such a young age even now, have had an idea for something so hi-tech 17 years previous, he would have been so young.

How do you know how old Simon is?
There are a lot of people out there looking much younger than they really are.
If he´s 40 he was 23 in 1992.

I don't know about you all, but I think I'm just going to pretty much ignore this series. No shows for four months? After showing for only two months? Sounds like a sure loser to me. Guess ABC's giving up on this one. I'm just going to read the book and be done with it.

Flashforward (novel)

So I'm brand new to the forum. Hi, I'm Ashley! I've loved this show from the beginning and can never wait until the next episode.

So my first thought was how stupid Lloyd was. It was honorable that he owned up to their experiment, but he lost his head in front of everyone. No matter how arrogant Simon is, he was right that they shouldn't take responsibility without more evidence.

I really want to know what got into Mark. He obviously has some kind of past of emotional instability with the alcoholism and his suspicious behavior towards Olivia, but his reaction was really over the edge in Hong Kong. I'd like to know a little more about his past in order to understand why he reacted so strongly when most others would've kept their cool.

I have to admire Zooey to still keep up hope for her future with Demetri, but I think at this point that's all she's holding on to.

Dominic Monaghan is now my new favorite actor (after seeing him in LOST and now FF). I really hope he continues working with the investigation and becomes a regular character. Simon is a hateful character, but you have to love him because his logical way of seeing things has elements of truth in it.


I really hope that the viewership starts picking up. I heard a lot of people stopped watching because it was getting a little slow, but after this episode, I really think things'll start picking up.

Anyway, I'm so pissed that we have to wait until March! Especially with that sneak peek they gave us at the end of this episode. I'll just have to start a countdown on my computer and get my FF fix with re-runs.

Although I highly recommend reading the novel because the novel is fantastic I do believe that the series and the novel are two different entities. I also would like to see how the series plays out. Sadly- is it in the US that March is the next airdate or is it all over the world? The Australian spoiler led me to believe it was in January it would come back - in AU. Anyone have any ideas? If so, thanks in advance.

Maybe it will come back in January in Australia -- the reason for the March thing has to do with the Winter Olympics, but that will barely be televised here.

Overall I enjoyed the episode.

The board full of clues in Nhadra's office (the Persian woman in Hong Kong) obviously looks like it contains a lot of the same clues that Mark's contains (I recognized the picture of Herr Geyer, the burned doll head, etc). Can anyone tell if her board has more clues than Mark's board? In other words, does her clue board look like Mark's current board or does it mimic what Mark's board will look like on April 29th (D-day)?

I enjoyed watching them tell Simon that the pylons he "invented" were photographed a year before he came up with the idea. What is up with D. Gibbons? Since when did they find out his name was Deacon? Also, earlier in the show the FBI was theorizing that he was hacking into computers trying to find out who caused the GBO. Now the FBI is theorizing that he caused the GBO?

There was one part of the episode that really bothered me and got under my skin, and that was the idea that Lloyd and Simon could come out with an announcement that big and then somehow Houdini out of the building without (1) getting arrested or (2) anyone knowing where they went? I recognize that they may not have broken any actual laws but they would have been taken into custody and questioned by the government regardless: the GBO represents a worldwide catastrophe much larger in scope than 9/11. Also, the woman who shot at Lloyd reminded me waaaaaay too much of the scene from "The Dark Knight", and that bothered me as well.

Another gripe with the episode was that the only FF we see is the one of Demetri's wedding/funeral. That to me seemed like a repeat --- were we seeing things from Zoe's perspective again or were we seeing things from Demetri's mother's perspective? I did enjoy Zoe's realization that she had misinterpreted her FF. I've been convinced from the start that what they see in the FF isn't always what they think they are seeing, and I expect that will happen more than a few more times, which is great.

The scene with Bryce and Janis about the sperm bank was awkward and pretty funny. It reminded me a lot of the scene where Olivia comes home to find Mark and Lloyd in the house (ep#6, Scary Monsters and Super Creeps) - again, awkward and pretty funny at the same time.

The scenes with Lloyd and Olivia were interesting. Specifically the "many worlds" discussion and the idea that perhaps in another life Olivia would have moved into that building, fallen in love with Lloyd, and they would be married with kids. I am convinced though that what they saw in their flash forward was not some alternate reality where Mark and Olivia parted ways in college and she married Lloyd instead. Mark was wearing Charlie's bracelet in his FF, Charlie says D. Gibbons was a bad man, etc.

While having the show off the air for a few months is disappointing, when the show does come back (in March) we'll actually be pushing right up against the date of Demetri's supposed murder (March 15). I know that time in the show and time in real life may not line up exactly, but that is one thing that has me excited to see what happens when the show returns.

Was I the only one who thought the spoilers at the end of the episode (ie the montage look at upcoming episodes) gave away a little too much? Some of those things were things I'd have liked to see play out on their own.

-Backslash

I wondered that too. They said there'd be a new FF every episode. I was hoping we'd see Nhadra's -- it's highly suspicious that we haven't.

No you weren't the only one! I thought the same thing. Hope they can toss in bigger twists that make them not-so spoilers.

dometry dont die d gibbins is dison frost mark bentford is ment to die oliva saves the world from future blackouts
simon and loyed gettin kidnap was fake simon new wot was hapenin as he planed it for his uncle then he tried killing his uncle succeded and his uncle has got hi sister and hs uncle chopped his nephes finger off i bet simon dont like hi any more lolz



simon is 35 i think cuz his plans were stolen wen he was 13 and that was atleast 20 or soo yrs ago so i reacon he is about 35



he was 13 wen his plans were stolen he is a very intellgent scientist and his uncle stole his plans