Who texted Olivia? Options

[Snoop]

The only two persons who know Mark was drinking in his flash forward are Aaron and the director of the FBI. I don't think they did it. The director has no reason to do that, well maybe we don't know it yet... and Aaron is Mark' friend, why would he not respected the fact that Mark didn't tell her? And above all, what would he used a cell phone with an unknown number?

I think there was someone around when mark talked about it. He said loud. It might be Bryce. He would rather tell Olivia about it than protect Mark.

[Zerbert]

I don't think it was Aaron or Stan Wedeck either. Could it have been someone who saw Mark in their flashforward? Maybe one of the gunmen in Mark's office or someone else who saw him in his office but Mark didn't notice?

[Backslash]

I think it was probably Aaron, given the timing of how things went down. Aaron has been saying all along (since episode 2) that Mark shouldn't be lying to Olivia. Then he is forced to (sortof) lie on Mark's behalf earlier in the episode, when Olivia asks Aaron directly if he has any reason to believe Mark has been drinking again. If he felt guilty about lying, maybe he is the one who gave her the anonymous tip.

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[Snoop]

I wonder which are the reasons. I mean, why to send this text?
I think the person who did it is involved in the GBO and need Olivia and Mark break up. She said it would be happen if he drank again. The one who sent the text wants either Mark to be affected emotionally, so he doesn't focus on the investigation, or Olivia to date Llyod. But I don't know why yet...

[1OH!8]

I wonder which are the reasons. I mean, why to send this text?
I think the person who did it is involved in the GBO and need Olivia and Mark break up. She said it would be happen if he drank again. The one who sent the text wants either Mark to be affected emotionally, so he doesn't be focused on the investigation, or Olivia to date Llyod. But I don't know why yet...

I think that's the reason also. Specifically, I think it was Lloyd who texted Olivia. Lloyd would have been told how and what to text Olivia by Simon. I think that Simon knows that Mark is heading up the Mosaic investigation, and that Simon also knows that he can slow the investigation down by causing a rift between Mark and Olivia (using Lloyd as a pawn) which we have seen the effect of already since Mark turned back to alcohol in his FF.

[lostie]

Sorry for last week's absence but I had too many things to do...

This being said...

I think Simon is the noe who texted Olivia. I really HATE this character, nothing to do with what I feel towards Janis...

Seriously, this guy and his people are really bad bad guys, and either HE is the one who texted 'Liv, either it is someone of the group he belongs to. It seems they are all related...

By the way, it can't be Llyod cuz Llyod knows nothing about Mark's pbs with alcohol...

The only ones to know are Aaron, and the ones working with Mark... friends of Mark and 'Liv...

But the only thing that makes sense to me are the people who ploted the GBO, (in my opinion it has something to do with the president's team, wether himself or the vice-president)... Something tells me that they have information on all the ones working on the Mosaïc..

By the way... The guys in Mark's FF who came to kill him or him and the ones on his team were from the FF, so they knew he was "loaded"... One of them could have been the one who texted Olivia.

[radev@umich.edu]

Sorry for last week's absence but I had too many things to do...

This being said...

I think Simon is the noe who texted Olivia. I really HATE this character, nothing to do with what I feel towards Janis...

Seriously, this guy and his people are really bad bad guys, and either HE is the one who texted 'Liv, either it is someone of the group he belongs to. It seems they are all related...

By the way, it can't be Llyod cuz Llyod knows nothing about Mark's pbs with alcohol...

The only ones to know are Aaron, and the ones working with Mark... friends of Mark and 'Liv...

But the only thing that makes sense to me are the people who ploted the GBO, (in my opinion it has something to do with the president's team, wether himself or the vice-president)... Something tells me that they have information on all the ones working on the Mosaïc..

By the way... The guys in Mark's FF who came to kill him or him and the ones on his team were from the FF, so they knew he was "loaded"... One of them could have been the one who texted Olivia.

Maybe Wedeck texted (think of the timing!). He wants to make sure that the future (and his promotion) happen.

[Iwonder]

Maybe Wedeck texted (think of the timing!). He wants to make sure that the future (and his promotion) happen.

Who will most benefit from Olivia's fears of Mark's relapse. Mark is investigating the bad guys who are clearly very smart. Olivia and Mark are a tight unit. Olivia leaves and Mark is distracted from his job, drunk and not up on his game.

[lostie]

Who will most benefit from Olivia's fears of Mark's relapse. Mark is investigating the bad guys who are clearly very smart. Olivia and Mark are a tight unit. Olivia leaves and Mark is distracted from his job, drunk and not up on his game.

This is EXACTLY what I think !

Weddeck wouldn't compromise one of his agents.

[Sleepy]

I think it's either Aaron or Mark. Okay, seems stupid for Mark to dob himself in, but it depends on what his fears are. If his absolute worst fear is someone else telling Olivia before he works up the courage, then it'd be illogical to text anonymously. However, in that case it would also be illogical to tell someone like Aaron, who obviously has contact with Olivia outside Mark's supervision. Mark didn't seem uncomfortable with this, suggesting he either trusts Aaron a lot (despite the fact that Aaron told him not to lie to Olivia), or he would rather someone else spilled the beans.

So if his actual fear is of telling Olivia, but he can face whatever comes after that, then it would be logical for Mark to let Aaron chat to her (because he might tell her himself), or make an anonymous text if he was too scared to tell her face to face, but also thought that she'd think he was a wimp for not telling her face to face.

[Snoop]

If I were in Mark's position, I would be more scared to see Olivia's response when she will know it's him or Aaron who sent the text anonymously than to tell her face-to-face.

[lostie]

You know what, I was thinking about putting the question the other way around ?

Who would gain anything from Olivia and Mark's divorce ?

==> Even though it would serve Llyod, it can't be him cuz he didn't know, at first, that Olivia was the woman with whom he was in his FF.

==> Even though Stanford was pissed after Mark hearing him admit he was drunk the day of the FF, he wouldn't do anyhting to compromise nor hurt any of his agents. He needs them all, strong, as a team.

==> Can't neither be Aaron... Why texting Olivia since he could have just told her at any occasion, especially when they talked together while Mark was in DC. Besides, MArk seems to ba more than a good friend, not forgetting Mark even helped him have an authorization to inhume his daughter.

==> It ceertainly isn't Demetri, cuz he doesn't know that Mark was drunk, nor anyone else amongst the FBI agents.



CCL° : The onlys ones left are the ones who "come from the future". The ones who have already lived the scene, or the ones who came to attack him.

==> Couldn't it be D.GIBBONS himself ?

==> Could it be Suspect zero, expecting him not to be D.GIBBONS, of course ?

==> Unless it was the guy in Utah, the one from the dolll factory ?


In my opinion, it can ONLY BE someone belonging to D.GIBBONS' team and no-one close to Mark. But that's just my opinion.

[Backslash]

Maybe Wedeck texted (think of the timing!). He wants to make sure that the future (and his promotion) happen.

The president offered Wedeck a promotion and Wedeck said he would think about it. Then Wedeck talks to the woman conducting the hearings, and she tells him that in her FF she is president. After that point Wedeck blackmails the president with the information about his illegitimate child in order to get the funding he needs.

The president tells Wedeck "he can only play this card once", and Wedeck says something like "today is all I have". I took this to mean that he believes the woman's FF, and thinks the president must either die or lose power on or before D-day (it can't be before, because we see the start of the president's FF, but Wedeck doesn't know that).

Anyway, my point is that Wedeck isn't getting a promotion at all. He was offered the job and then turned around and blackmailed the president. Also, in his FF we see him on the toilet in the FBI building, so clearly he still works in that building (in California, not in DC) on D-day.

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[Sleepy]

What about the guy who saw himself going out the security entrance. We only saw a very short snippet of his FF, and as we know from Al's, those short FF scenes can be misleading. So maybe he saw Mark getting drunk in his FF.

If I were in Mark's position, I would be more scared to see Olivia's response when she will know it's him or Aaron who sent the text anonymously than to tell her face-to-face.

Good point, but it does depend on what Mark is scared of. Also, as an FBI agent he could sent texts anonymously enough to be confident Olivia would never be able to find out who sent it.

[Backslash]

What about the guy who saw himself going out the security entrance. We only saw a very short snippet of his FF, and as we know from Al's, those short FF scenes can be misleading. So maybe he saw Mark getting drunk in his FF.

In that same scene where we see him going out the security door, don't we also see him pass a lie detector test where he says he didn't see anyone during his FF?

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[Destiny21]

Remember two masked guys who tryed to kill Mark in his FF?
If Mark saw them, maybe they saw him too. And we know they work for Flosso (or whatever his name is, that fat guy with the rings who Simon kills in the last episode), and as i've seen, he knows everything about everyone... So is it possible someone of them sent Olivia that message?

[lostie]

Remember two masked guys who tryed to kill Mark in his FF?
If Mark saw them, maybe they saw him too. And we know they work for Flosso (or whatever his name is, that fat guy with the rings who Simon kills in the last episode), and as i've seen, he knows everything about everyone... So is it possible someone of them sent Olivia that message?

This is another good catch here... But I don't know. I think we need to wait and see. Remember Olivia's FF ? She saw Llyod, but Llyod didn't remember her...

Maybe Mark saw the 2 masked guys but they didn't "see" him clearly. But one things for sure though ! They seem to belong to Flosso's team since they are the guys who kidnapp Simon...

So you're right... Maybe there is a thread we could follow here.

[Destiny21]

This is another good catch here... But I don't know. I think we need to wait and see. Remember Olivia's FF ? She saw Llyod, but Llyod didn't remember her...

Maybe Mark saw the 2 masked guys but they didn't "see" him clearly. But one things for sure though ! They seem to belong to Flosso's team since they are the guys who kidnapp Simon...

So you're right... Maybe there is a thread we could follow here.

Well thank you
They are for sure in Flosso's team, and also, when Mark and Demetri killed a guy with that star tattoo - i realised that whole team (Flosso's team) has exact same tattoo's... So who knows what will happen' there now that Flosso's dead. But i'm sure that neither Aaron or Webbeck texted Olivia.

It crossed my mind now - what about persian lady who is working with D. Gibbons? I'm starting to think it was her, she knows way too much and has her own mosaic board.

[SB208]

Or was it lloyd?

[Destiny21]

Or was it lloyd?

I was about to ask you how would Lloyd know about Mark's drinking, but theni remember - in their FF's, Mark & Lloyd are on the phone and Lloyd knows about this... So, yeah, maybe. Nice catch!