Apr 16 2010, 08:20 PM
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Now that I've watched the episode on 4/15 I came to some new conclusions about some of the overall questions in the show.
(1) The father of Janis's Baby. Simon is the father of Janis's baby. In this episode Janis reveals to Demetri that she is pregnant, right as Demetri is about to say something about their night in Somalia. This entire episode (and probably the next one as well) revolves around Demetri, and Simon makes no appearance at all. But I believe this is intentional misdirection --- at the end of the previous episode Simon propositioned Janis while revealing that she is a mole. I'm thinking she took him up on that offer. (2) The reason Demetri had no blackout. The reason Demetri had no blackout on October 6th is because he is wearing one of the rings on April 29th. The ring is almost certainly the same ring that belonged to Deacon Frost / D. Gibbons, since Gibbons takes him captive at the end of last night's episode. Simon / Suspect Zero wore one of the the rings on October 6th and because of that he had no blackout. He told everyone he saw himself strangling someone but as we saw in a previous episode that was what he was doing on Octorber 6th, not April 29th, and he was just using that as a cover story. -Backslash |
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Apr 19 2010, 09:37 PM
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I think the baby one is pretty obvious, but a little too obvious maybe?
The ring theory is interesting though. It feeds into my theory about Frost, and possibly Vogel, working somehow against the government (i.e. Jericho) who were the actual cause of the world wide blackout. I think there's a possibility that Frost is trying to prevent the perversion of his project by Jericho and whomever is pulling their strings. Who knows? He may turn out to be a heroic character. And the only reason I say that Frost may be working with Vogel is due to the video tape and Vogel's presence in Africa. I don't think it could be Janice. I think she is working with Jericho somehow. |
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Apr 19 2010, 10:38 PM
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Good point about Frost and Vogel being on the same team. That makes sense given everything that went down with the Persian woman in Hong Kong (Nhadra, the one who called Demetri and warned him about the date of his death). We see Frost go to her for asylum at one point.
That doesn't necessarily mean Frost is a good guy though --- to me it insinuates that Vogel is more of a bad guy than I thought. Frost is a cop killer (episode 2, white to play), he was allied with Flosso (episode 11, revelation zero) and we see him talking on the phone with Simon telling him to eat the popcorn and find the ring at the bottom of the box. Meanwhile Flosso appears to be a pretty clear cut villain - he claims to have caused the GBO, claims to be a villain, we see him assassinate the Jericho operative who brought him the box of rings, and his bosses have kidnapped Simon's sister. In Frost's defense, if he really wanted Demetri dead he wouldn't kidnap him, he would flat out kill him. So I don't really know what to think about his motives. -Backslash |
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Apr 19 2010, 11:37 PM
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Yes... but if you think about it, it's possible that Frost was just using Flosso to get Simon into the mix and vice-versa to get Flosso out of the way as well in his whole big chess game? Maybe not hero, but anti-hero?
I think this whole plot line relies heavily on the "multiple timelines" theory. To add: I think Frost may be protecting Demitri. I think his plan needs Demitri in order to work. Remember the whole spiel where Frost says, "In almost every one of my flashes I die..." I think almost is the operative word here. I think Frost is trying to achieve the outcome where he DOESN'T die. |
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Apr 30 2010, 09:21 AM
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Yes... but if you think about it, it's possible that Frost was just using Flosso to get Simon into the mix and vice-versa to get Flosso out of the way as well in his whole big chess game? Maybe not hero, but anti-hero? I think this whole plot line relies heavily on the "multiple timelines" theory. To add: I think Frost may be protecting Demitri. I think his plan needs Demitri in order to work. Remember the whole spiel where Frost says, "In almost every one of my flashes I die..." I think almost is the operative word here. I think Frost is trying to achieve the outcome where he DOESN'T die. Yes I think too that Frost was trying to escape his fate of dieing at March 15th. I think that was his plan. If you remember he said it to the Alda or what ever her name is (the girl who killed him) that the white dominoes are his way out or something like that. That was the only way he saw himself alive. And I think that his way out was giving him self up to Mark, and telling him everything he knows. Frost told Demitri that he is the one that kills him almost every time, and by kidnapping and strapping Demitri to the chair not allowing him to move he thought he was safe and that he would not die. That is why he said "It was not spouse to go like this" or something like that when he died, you could see fear in his eyes. In almost every possible future he saw, he saw Demitri killing him in every way possible but he didnt know Alda would kill him too. I thought that he thought he could change the "future" with Mark, he said that his employers wanted Mark dead from the beginning, but he knew that he could change the future and world only with Mark. he said something like here we are to save the world when they met. But he was wrong, it is up to Mark to do that on his own or maybe with Demitri. Who knows. But this so is soooooooooooo great, it blows my mind sometimes. |
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May 12 2010, 12:36 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 3-April 10 From: Derby UK Member No.: 756 Real Name: Joe |
You Must have a lot of Time on your Hands bless you, question is will it help us Discover what will happen and the purpose or intention of the cause Of the flashforwards, we know how there Happening. My Suggestion is that Ever since the episode the where Demetri Lived, Looking at the Bit marked THE END at the Top Of Frosts Prevention of his Own Death Board. The Possible intention of the Flashforwards is to Prevent the End of the Earth or the end of all time, Simon said to Llyod that there Experiment Must Take Place, even though Simon Doesn't know the full extent of why either, just the same as the others that have done things on the Quiet. Now Simons gone off to Help amplify the Experiment for the next Possible Flash Forward, The FBI or Even the CIA. Should look at Places Around the globe that Use large Amounts or have used Large amounts Of Electricity, just As Simon and Lloyds Experiment did to Maybe Help Find Where Simon. Also is it possible for Simon to find some way of Reversing Effects of The Ampification, by Maybe As they do in Star Trek, reverse the Polarity, so that the QED Rings Cause the ones Wearing them to Black out, Instead of the Whole World, but that wouldn't be exciting now would it lol.
-------------------- All you need to know is I watch Flashforward
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